Anyone running a blower without ac and smog, with no dummie pullies, if so what is your setup and pics please.
Thanks
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Anyone running a blower without ac and smog, with no dummie pullies, if so what is your setup and pics please.
Thanks
Good question. I have my gutted smog pump and dead a/c compressor on and don't like it...but it works
Lots of ProCharger guys are doing it using the "Renegade" bracket.
Using a standard rotation water pump helps out quite a bit. I just use a tensioner on the alternator to apply belt tension. I don't run AC, smog, PS.
RS novi can you post some pics of your setup. I called procharger and they said the real street kit would work with no ac and smog, it's a none intercooled kit but should be okay. Keep em coming
Check out this site. http://www.stangcrazy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6216
It has a picture of what my car used to look like back when I ran the Procharger.
That link didn't work RS, I'm just trying to get a good idea of how the belt is routed and accessory location, before I drop the dough on a blower. I absolutely refuse to run dummie pullies, which the vortech kit requires, I would prefer to run the vortech, but procharger is fine with me. Thanks for the assistance.
I don't run any dummy pulleys with my Paxton. It is also not necessary with the Vortech stuff. Unfortunately I don't have a picture, but I dumped that Procharger and have never been happier.Quote:
Originally Posted by trickflow302
can you elaborate on how i get the vortech kit to work, that procharger setup above is exactly what i was looking for, why did you switch to paxton? Thanks again
Here is my latest setup. What you see are the only accessories that I have. I just run a short accessory belt which makes one big loop around the crank, WP, and alt.Quote:
Originally Posted by RSNovi
I had a lot of problems with the Procharger. It only lasted 15 passes before blowing oil. That Paxton is a very reliable blower and their support has been awesome.
you running power steering in the procharger pic, procharger said it gets moved to the pass side
I wasn't running PS with the Procharger, but I did see the bracket before.
with the vortech kit that i've seen, the alt gets moved all the way down to the bottom below the blower and i've seen no way to run the belt from the alt to the power steering pump without hitting the water pump, unless you know the secret, is there an aftermarket bracket, I would definetly prefer to run the vortech.
What if you used that FMS power steering relocation bracket? That moves your power steering pump to where the AC used to be. I wonder how that would work with a stand rotation water pump.
Here are some crude drawing of what I had in mind. The pulley alignments might be off some.
I got the ac eliminator kit on there now, the only think i don't see working with your sketches is no tensioner pulley. Please keep the ideas coming.
on the vortech kit you use the stock tensioner and it is located to the left and up of the wp
I don't use a tensioner pulley. I use a turnbuckle from March on the alternator to apply belt tension.
Here are some bad pics of my setup. I think!
http://www.superchargerhelp.com/atta...ntid=970&stc=1
http://www.superchargerhelp.com/atta...ntid=971&stc=1
http://www.superchargerhelp.com/atta...ntid=973&stc=1
How do I post a pic so it is already open?
I appreciate the help guys, it looks like I'm going to need to run the smog pulley with the vortech, but atleast I don't have to run the ac pulley, I can just leave my ps pump where its at and hopfully it will work. Vortech said there was now way to run the kit without the ac and smog, then when I went to look for a dummie ac pulley, no one made one that I could find. So I went looking through the old mustang rags and found a photo of someone running the s-trim with the ac delete kit installed also, so I'm felling a little more confident that it will fit with the smog pulley though. Going to order the s-trim next week. Thanks again for the help
I couldn't get mine to work w/o the a/c being there. UPR and ASP make a/c delete pulleys if you end up needing one. I have a pulley from a Ford smog pump delete, I'm going to make the mounting bracket for it and use it as an a/c delete pulley.Quote:
Originally Posted by trickflow302
It can be done, just have some patience and use some creativity. They told me the same thing when I bought my Paxton, but I was able to run it without all those pulleys.
http://www.superchargerhelp.com/phot...cat=500&page=2
Here's a simple setup.
I found a photo in an old 5.0 mag, it was a standard s trim setup with no ac, the guy was running the ac delete and from what i can tell a dummie smog pulley, la rocca's put together the motor, so i supose i could call them and see if i'm right. with ac and power steering on a stock motor the ac compressor sits toward the pass side and a little higher then a car running just the ps pump. as long as the smog pulley is high enough I shoudn't have any problems running it to the tensioner and ps pump, just need a shorter belt. Unless I'm wrong...lol.
regattacoupe, it won't let me view your linked photo, it says i have to be a registered user, which I am, go figure.
thx for the lead on the ac pulley, pny pwr, in case I end up needing it, which i hope not.
you're welcome and I can't view the galleries either
Im running a Vortech and this year Im running nothing but the alternator and s/c. Ive been looking for a tensioner for the alt. and Im sure someone makes one but Ive had no luck finding one from all the well known pulley manufacturers. I will have to engineer something myself if I cant find one. Last year I ditched my a/c and put the eliminator pulley in place of the smog pump, and the tensioner would push the belt into itself, I tried a slightly shorter belt and it still wanted to destroy itself! I ended up taking the tensioner off completely and pulled the alt. with a wrench and put spacers on the lower bracket. It was a pain in the ***, and it may sound hokey, but it was all I could do with it! Thats why I got the bright idea that I wasnt going to deal with anymore accesories this year!
I run an S-trim without AC and smog. I bought a chrome Alternator "J" channel from Advance Auto and bolted one end to the blower plate and the other to the alt. I had to grind out the slot in the "J" end a little so my bolt would fit through. Also I don't run AC and made and idler pulley for the serp belt to run over and back down to the PS pump, and deleted the stock tensioner. Now I adjust the belt by sliding the alt in the "J" channel. When I did that I got a belt that was snug when I had the alt up as far as it would go, and got the belt to slide over the water pump pulley.(93 cobra) Then pulled the alt down to put tension on it.... And to get the belt over to the PS pump without hitting the WO pump and made an idler pulley. I used the vortech tensioner bracket by flipping it around and spacing out an idler pulley with a couple washers to getit in lne with the rest. Been running this way for about 1.5 years without any problems.
Here are a few pics of my set-up..
http://www.87gt.com/strim/Altbracket5.JPG
http://www.87gt.com/strim/Altbracket4.JPG