Do you have any good pics of the blower? Do you need the stock belt tensioner? Thanks
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Do you have any good pics of the blower? Do you need the stock belt tensioner? Thanks
yes you need the stock tensioner. When I baught my kit they forgot to send me the bracket needed to mount the tensioner.
If you are asking that question it sounds to me like they forgot yours...
http://www.novipower.com/photopost/d...enginebay1.jpg
Mark
Actually. I haven't installed it yet but I was told that since I only have alt,water pump and crank. The alternator would act like the tensioner. Thanks for the pic though. How long did it take you to install
alternator act as tensioner? Now that is a new one! How do you suppose it will take the slack out of the belt? You would need an adjustable bracket to supply the needed tension.
OH. I was told by Jack @ MM that the alt will be the tensioner. I was thinking kinda like the 80's gm's swiveled @ the alt.
no, the alt doesnt swivel to take up the slack, it bolts directly to the blower bracket through to the main bracket, then hooks to the smog pump, or smog delete pulley. you must have one of these regardless what anyone tells you! the alt connects to the smog pump or eliminator with a bracket. w/o this bracket the alt cannot be supported & w/o the smog pump you cannot hook the bracket..... im not sure what jack was thinking when he said th alt could be used as the tensioner, he ws probably thinking of another vehicle! you do have a fox body mustang right?
i also had the tensioner bracket missing from my kit, appearently this was common in the first several kits that were sent out......
nah everything has no adjustment...
uhhh well I can't give you a time nor a estamated time :)
It was fairly easy actually.
I can't give a time because:
1. I stripped out a few bolts, had to re-tap the hole
2. Waited for my alt bracket from paxton
3. Found out I needed a smog pump elim kit from steeda.
It was easy though the hardest is tapping the oil pan, but thats not even hard.
Mark
ok I'll get the smog elim. Also, do I need the stock bracket at all with the alt,smog pump or does the new blower take place of all that? Reason I ask is becasue I don't have the factory one anymore
no, the factory bracket would be removed & replaced with the main support bracket & the flat blower bracket. the alt gets relocated to the bottom of the new bracket & the smog stays in a similiar location to stock. just to add, UPR products sells the smog delete pully for $45..........
you can look in my gallery for pics
ok guys you know the blower better than me. I haven't installed it yet but want to make sure I have all that I need to do the install in 1 day. I have the water pump spinning the opposite way and have only the 3 accessories spinning. Can you see by remembering the install if I can get by with just moving the alt. to below the blower and not needing a smog elim. or anything? Thanks
you must have the smog pump eliminator pully. its critacal for the proper belt routing & no interference. plus as i mentioned previously, the smog pump & eliminator bracket have a tapped hole that allows one of the alt brackets to mount to it........double check your parts list to be sure all parts are there. especially the tensioner bracket mentioned above. it was left out of some kits & was not on the parts list either...other than that make sure you have fresh oil, oil filter, fresh coolant, a NPT tap for the oil return pan fitting & dont forget to regap the plugs before all the blower parts are installed(.035)....
good luck,
-justin
ok but I got rid of the stock bracket for alt,smog. I don't need it do I? just the smog elim for the paxton bracket.
Also what does the part look like that you guys didn't get with the kit?
No you don't need the stock bracketing.Quote:
Originally posted by KoolRockSteady
ok but I got rid of the stock bracket for alt,smog. I don't need it do I? just the smog elim for the paxton bracket.
Also what does the part look like that you guys didn't get with the kit?
The part they didn't get is the little braket plate thingy (look to picture) just in front of the thermostat housing that the tensioner is bolted to. Atleast this what I think they didn't get.
Yeah the bracket is almost shaped like a square look at my pic above at the tensioner, right in front of the thermostat housing.
On the new style SC "seperate belt drive" You need a smog pump elim kit. There is no way to route the belt without have a extra pulley to bring the belt up high enough so it is not hitting the water pump pulley.
Mark
OK I see what your saying about needing the smog pump but even though I will run the belt on the other side of the waterpump so it spins counterclockwise. It still won't work huh? If you guys are telling me that wont work then cool. Just wanted to make sure for the 6th time..lol
well I don't know of how the belt routing would go, so I can't say for sure that you need it.
Mark
this is how mine looks right now. See how the water pump spins backwards?
http://www.novipower.com/photopost/s....php?photo=553
The smog can be eliminated with an idler. My belt was getting offly close the water pump so I needed a little more lift. I took out one of the long 7" existing bolts and bought a 7 1/2" bolt. From here I found an idler pulley from another engine and with some washers etc. I put this idler right on the bracket beside the smog pump, this will now give the lift needed to eliminate the smog pump, I left mine on cause otherwise I need a new belt and the smog is gutted anyways.
I should have pics in the week or so.
I'm running w/p backwards and it makes no difference.
hmmm, so you can run the waterpump either direction? i thought it had to spin in the direction of the impeller inside?
koolrocksteady, i see you have the w/p, alt & crank all spinning the same direction. unfortunately if you just lower the alt to its new location the angle of the belt from the alt to the w/p will be too steep causing the tensioner to hit the w/p pulley. with the new blower bracket the tensioner is located directly above the w/p pulley so the tensioner would rest on the w/p pulley since theres no belt tension between them. you will have the same issues even with the added smog delete pulley. you will either need to add both an a/c delete pulley & a smog delete pulley & reroute the belt so the w/p spins as it did factory OR find a custom location for an added idler pulley wich would allow you to run your current set up w/ no added deletE kits(as sinner mentioned above).
-justin
I think he has a standard rotation pump, not a reverse rotation. They both do the same thing, they just turn in different directions.
If you run a reverse rotation pump as a standard rotation your motor will overheat in no time at all and could lead to damage.
Sorry I didn't mean "backwards" in terms of the w/p spinning. I just routed the belt around the w/p backwards, it still spins the the same way.
Well, I checked and I do have the bracket that Paxton seems to forget in the package so that's a good sign.
I have the stock waterpump and I'm spinning it backwards. It doesn't everheat nor does it get over 180 degree's. I would suggest a standard rotation wp so it';ll move more water but this is working fine for me. My friend in AZ also does this and he has no problems either