I know that some heads work better with a blower than others, of course better flow = better with a blower im guessing.
I have a stock longblock and am going to upgrade heads/cam/intake over the winter. What are some of your setups and what times/hp are you running?
Anything to not get? Anything you suggest to get?
Any help/ suggestions are warmly invited. Thank you
Scott
Well I am kind of an old school 5.0 guy. I have run everything from High ports to GT-40's. I installed AFR 165's on my car and I can not believe the power they make. My car put down 472 at the wheels through the AOD. Stock cam, no porting. 1.7 rockers. Naturally my vote goes AFR
Doug
I also use AFR 165's they are the only way to go in my book :)
Ian
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Originally posted by dugscpe
Well I am kind of an old school 5.0 guy. I have run everything from High ports to GT-40's. I installed AFR 165's on my car and I can not believe the power they make. My car put down 472 at the wheels through the AOD. Stock cam, no porting. 1.7 rockers. Naturally my vote goes AFR
Doug
Oh that horsepower number looks beautiful to me. What intake do you have? No porting at all? on intake or heads.? Wow thats a nice number. AFR 165's are looking good to me. Thank you
Scott
Here's the complete combo:
Stock shortblock 100K
AFR 165 heads
TFS Track Heat
70mm Mac throttle body
1 5/8 shorties
1.7 crane rockers
36 pound injectors-No FMU
Lentech AOD
3.73 gears
2800 pound coupe
472rwhp
435rwt
10.8@126
No porting what so ever!!! Everything is installed out of the box.
Whoops-forgot the most important part
Novi 2000-10 pounds of boost
WOW Doug 10.8 is awesome. I was thinking about that track heat intake, and I know im going to need a 70mm TB. Those numbers really give me a smile. I think I might just be pushing 500 RWHP with a manual and a upgraded cam?
That really is a great looking combo, i think I am going to get the 165's and the track heat, now I just need to find a good cam...... How much is a custom grind? Do you know? Thanks alot for the responses.
Scott
With a stick and custom grind cam, you should be in 500rwhp land. Just be careful and get a good tune. 500rwhp is about the point where the stock block lets go. My combo actually went 509rwhp with 30 degrees total timing and C16 fuel in it. The only reason I don't post those numbers is I don't drive it like that and I think it would blow up if I did. I run 26 degrees total timing on pump gas with no detonation. We actually made 22 dyno runs to get the A/F right. A custom grind cam will run you around $280.00, but it's probably worth it.
Doug
Doug,
Thank you alot for the information. It is concrete in my mind now what im going to get,.
track heat
165's
custom grind cam
Good tune
Thanks again
Scott
Don't forget to order from Jack @ MM, be sure to tell him you are a member.
Ian
Since you are going to get AFR 165cc (my personal fav and the ones I bought myself) order part number 1400. These are the ones with the 61cc combustion chambers. They also come with screw in studs for the rockers and guide plates. The larger chamber is preferable on a blower install. You could also run an Edelbrock Performer or performer RPM intake as they work very well with those heads. The Trick Flow is very good as well. Just offering options for you as you really can't go wrong with any of those intakes.
Ditto what Ian said. Call Jack @ Muscle Motors
See my sig...
However I do agree with IAN!!!! AFR's OWN!!!
Ed Curtis is pretty well known as THE guy for custom cams for 5.0's. He charges $325 US shipped for a one of a kind cam. I've heard nothing but good things about this guy and he gets results. You can check out his sit at:
http://www.flowtechinduction.com/
on my previous car 86gt i had a 302, edelbrock rpm heads box stock 2.02/1.60 valves, cobra intake, e cam, and shorties with vortechs trim with 11lbs of boost. it made 467 to rear and went 10.98 @ 127 so i liked the edelbrock rpms
after i put on the novi 1k i also slipped on the edel rpm's and rpm intake with another e cam in the present coupe. it will be getting dyno'd next month...it went 12.50 @ 109 with only 5 lbs boost. i love those heads..the work well with my combo.
Old combo Stock long block, E cam, Cobra intake, 2K with stock pullies ect ect Ran 11.88 @114 pushing boost through the cooling system
New Combo: TFS High Ports, Holley intake, balance job on the stock bottom, and a few other little things. Gunning for LOW 10s maybe a high 9 at the end of the year when I dont care about breaking the block :)
I run a pair of cleaned up TFS Twisted Wedges'
i have windsor jr's that i really need to have ported, or just bite the bullet and get some AFR's!!! i think the windsor's have potential, but i don't see me sticking with them for the long haul!
I am running Edelbrock 6037 heads.
im running world rousch 200's they work great before 1000 hope they work better with it????
well i running with roush 200 also but i haven't been to the track yet. plus i just got the charger so i hope i run good numbers!
I like the the AFR 185cc. See sig.
trick flow heads work great out of the box for my combo mine made 576 at the tire with a stock cam stock computer shorty 1 5/8 headers and a DR gas x pipe and flowmasters
I run p heads with 1.94/1.60 valves. When Mike Post tunned the car he could'nt believe how much power the heads made. 435/435 on a poor tune. This is with an E-cam and an Exploreer intake. Not exactly Hi-po parts. They are also alot less prone to blow head gaskets. Steel vs. aluminum.
Eric
Eric, if you don't mind my asking,
How much boost are you running?
What mods have you done with the Interceptor?
I'm running home ported iron Cobra heads, ported lower Edelbrock Performer intake + Ultradyne 216/216 x .515/.515 cam, n/a I'm making @ 290 rwhp. Hoping to crack the 400hp mark on the 30# injectors, with help from an F150 pulley and eec-tuner.
Unfortunately I've had my Novi kit sitting in a cardboard box since early August, first got sidelined with some ecm problems, then cooling problems, and now the car is sitting under a pile of snow since xmas... frickin frackin A!
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CJ
I have some ported Vic Jrs that supposedly flowed 320cfm and 240cfm @ .700 lift and 28". I never did see the flow sheets though.....
The motor made over 800fwhp at only 15lb boost and 18 degrees timing, so the heads don't seem to be a restriction.
Great looking motor q777, seen you post on corral. Nice video of your motor on the dyno also.
I had Brian run them on his flowbench, 311.8cfm / 273.8cfm @ .700, water i'm not sure about.
TEA ported TFS heads.
On my stock shortblock 302 combo, with an s-trim, and an off the shelf Lunati cam, my car made 575rwhp on pump gas with a safe A/F ratio (11.9:1). These are the same heads I'm using on my 377 setup with an Ed Curtis cam and a Spyder intake.