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for the guys familar with my setup, i used the stock tensioner, welded it and put it in the march bracket to get rid of my ps setup. well today, the plastic pulley failed, spit the belt, and cracked the tensioner in half. i can email ya a pic to put up. so i ordered the 30040 setup from march. 139. so i hope it's worth it. i know 5150 is running it, or is planning on it, and it looks stout, so what the hell. FFW is saturday, so i hope it works well.:bonk:
Damn man $139, I saw one recently on the Corral for under $50. I think it was in the Misc. section, may be worth a look if ya can cancel that other order.
Here's one link, he's looking to trade for next to nothing..
http://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...t=march+pulley
Damn I just realized that the date was last month.....
well i appreciate the help anyways, but hell it's only money right? i am just glad the setup i had was intact for a while, got to dyno it and drag it, now i will feel safer with a better piece.
Neil, lemme know how it works out for you as I am nowhere near that stage yet.
will do bud. i am getting it tomorrow and it should be in the car within 1/2 hour. hope the same belt will work(doubt it), can't wait to take off the WP pulley again to get the belt to fit!!! 8 inches of love.
Well dude, bad news. The bracket sits much lower, and the pulley is small and you can figure out that = Belt rub on Wp pulley. Will need either some sort of additional idler or bigger pulley. I don't know what to do..................
FFW is sat. and i am up the creek
Well crap how can they advertise it as an a/c delete kit then??
Shoot me a pic of what it looks like installed if you can, maybe I can help ya figure something out.
Where's the "professor" when ya need him, lol. He could make a new pulley a bit larger & problem would be solved......
I just bought a stock tensioner which i am going to have welded tomorrow. Putting the 1460 march bracket back in until i can figure the other one out.
The 30040 looks awesome in there, but it will rub on the cobra pulley once the belt is tensioned. It looks good until the belt goes on, thats when you see how close it is. I wonder if anyone has done this setup before and had to make/fab something up? I would shoot ya a pic, but it's dark+thundering and lightening out.
it would be great with a pulley that was double in size of the one in the kit. The thing is smaller than a ALT. pulley. I was thinking of where to buy one with a bearing that was larger and looked similar, but not sure if March/ASP would even bother?
I guess that everyone who used one was also using an elec. W/P, this just plain stinks!!
i second that .....what a waste of 139. can't return it to summit now.....Must make it work........
Neil,
May have figured out a way to reposition the pulley where it sits high enough to give the needed clearance with the belt @ the w/p pulley.
Shift the mounting point 1 bolt counter-clockwise (on the W/P), 2 of the 3 bolts will line up, now if you can rig up a way to tie in the 3rd bolt hole on the bracket we'd be in business. A chunk of alum. the same thickness as the length of the short spacer could be used to tie 'em both in.
Drop me an e-mail at searly@camalott.com & I'll e-mail a pic or two of what I tried to explain (as soome as my batteries recharge :( )
Neil ya got pics :D
Sean,
Not sure about what you mean about tying the 3rd bolt hole in, enlighten me my brother!
E-mail sent, would load pics here but my account has minimal space.
Neil,
Here's a pic with the bracket, took me about 5 min. to make. Used 3/4" boxed steel, drilled two holes and done. You will need to pick up (1) 4" long 5/16 allen head bolt to replace the one that is sticking up in the pic and then another 2" 5/16 allen head bolt to bolt the March bracket to the boxed steel bracket. You can use one of the 6" bolts supplied with the March kit to mount the boxed steel to the W/P.
Pic 1:
http://www.novipower.com/photopost/d...2-med.JPG?9814
Pic 2:
http://www.novipower.com/photopost/d...1-med.JPG?8366
have you looked at CSI online catalog yet? they have a remote mounted electric water pump kit that could work. we would have to just mount it somewhere near the front of the motor. that would probably work because we could then just work on having the belt routed down the passenger side to run the charger, alternator, and crank.
is this on the revised novi or the first single belt novi? Good luck, hope you can get it to work
I've considered an elec. w/p but I have more pressing issues that need the ~$300 right now, can't recall anyone on here running an elec. pump with their single belt 1k unit.
And just for the record, you're not the only guy in here with a car in so many pieces that you can't remember how to put it back together :D Mine's been down & apart for about a year now. Hence my "Resident Bench Racer" status, lol.
well it is a possibility now that i have seen your handy work. will have to do some parts shopping and let you know how i make out.
SEAN,
dude, i tried to put it in that way but the hole at the 12o'clock doesnt' line up if i put the 2nd bolt in. i would have to grind out the hole 1/8 inch to get it to line up properly... let me know how you did it or if yours just fits and mine is $hitty
There was minimal mis-match with mine, it was tight but it barely fit & I was able to get the bolt threaded all the way thru. Neil, worse come to worse, you could always open up the hole a little on the w/p & drill out the threads on the timing cover, run a bolt all the way thru & put a bolt on the backside of the timing cover.
i just don't want to do that if this isn't going to work though, ya know... what if i notch the bracket slightly instead? A little zip with the dremel should do it....
You could do that as well, but you will have to be careful & meticulous. the recessed hole in the March bracket also comes into play with keeping the pulley aligned with the other acces. and keeping it on a flat plane. If I had to do it I'd locate a good drill press and just use a large enough bit to give you the clearance needed.
Have you been able to mock it up to see if it clears the belt at the w/p, this was my main curiousity.
Clearing the WP will not be a problem, but coming off the crank pulley with the belt to this pulley is going to be almost straight up. Not sure if that is an issue.
Just looked at mine and with my larger F-150 pulley there is no way I'll encounter any interference between the crank and the March pulley, you'll be good to go there.
Sean "Novi DIDDY",
made up the box steel bracket, still need to get the 4" and 2" allen bolts.. I still don't like the top bolt, its threading in, but there is major tension on it....I think once it's in there, it'll be fine, but i have to get the right allen bolt to really try it out. with the bracket in there semi tightly- I ran a belt round the system and it looks very nice, good alignment and such. Top bolt is just what's giving me fits, overreacting am I?
I just made a parts run for the allen bolts. I found the 1.5" ( which fits good) bolt in stainless at Home Depot but they didn't have anything longer than 3", so I'll have to search around for the 4" one. If you locate one let me know where you got it.
i will, i have a fastener company 10 minutes away, so i will try there if HOMO depot lets me down.
i got the bolts, but they didn't have stainless, only zinc. They should hold up fine i would imagine. Still need to get a new belt, maybe tomorrow.. now i need a way to mount my coil... maybe make up a bracket to mount to the cylinder head....
Get that damn thing on so I can market my bracket to March. I need a test car, will split profits 50/50 with ya, lol. Put the coil back on the apron (term?), that's where mine is. Honestly though, If this works then I will probably send March an e-mail to descibe the issue we have encountered & maybe they will eventually too a new piece that is S/C specific.
i don't have a stock coil bracket... got a spare? i used one from a 94 gt when i had it mounted to the last tensioner bracket. Now i need to either fab something or get a stock bracket
Sorry Neil no spare. Time for you to hit the bone yards, that coil bracket should be fairly easy to locate.
round here, there are no boneyards with stang parts. they have been cleaned out long ago....looks like i will be taking the custom bracket route.
I'm pretty sure you could souce the bracket from nearly any V8 car, I can't see Ford making a dozen different types of coils and even more different mounting brackets. They may have but it would economically make sense to use the same parts for all V8 equipped vehicles.
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