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Hi.Musclemotors is selling vortech tuner kits for $2599.They also sell tuning kits for $600 to make the kit complete.My question is.If i keep the boost at a stock lever,for now at least.What else will i have to buy to make the kit complete.I already have a diablo chip but it's not programmed for it.Or should i just buy a complete kit from somewhere else.They run around $3000-$3200 for the 2000 mustang gt.Or would you guys suggest another supercharger?
The reasoning behind the "tuner" kit is the fact that most of us typically up the boost in a relatively short time-frame and end up spending more money than if we had done it right the 1st go around.
Did you get a specific list of what parts differ from the "tuner" vs. the "non-tuner" kit?
Also, I think that there are "tuner" kits available for the Novi 2000. You may want to check that out as well.
I prefer the tuner kits. That way you get to pic what parts you want to in order to complete the kit. This is stuff like chips, ignitions, and fuel dilivery.
So i guess i better stay with a complete kit since i would stay at stock boost.My engine is stock otherwise so i don't wanna damage it by upping the boost.At least not too much.Yes i've seen novi 2000 tuner kits.But they're $4000.I can buy a complete turbo system for that much.they're expensive because they all seem to come with an aftercooler.At least the ones i've seen.I'm thinking of eather a
-Novi 1000 for $3,249.00
-Intercooled procharger for $3,249.00
-Vortech V-2 SQ S-Trim for $3,349.00
Which one would you guys suggest?
I would call each place, and see just what kit's are available. I have a novi2000 kit that isn't advertised at all. I believe it cost me about 2700 or so for my fox car. Give em a call. I'm sure you can get a novi2k kit for less then 4grand. I'm assuming you are looking at a p1sc for the procharger setup. I personally don't like the self contained oiling idea, so I would go with the s-trim in your case.
The novi 2000 is like 200 more then the novi 1000 for the 2000 gt.And those are all prices from the same place.
so it's 3449.00 then?
Sounds like a no brainer to me.
Where are you quoting these prices from?
For $200 more I'd spring for the Novi 2000, I wish I had one :D
Actually i just checked.It's $3599.Prices are from superchargersonline.com.They say the novi 2000 makes 452 hp and 459tq.So you think the novi 2000 is the way to go?
The Novi2k has slightly more potential than the S-trim, but the S-trim is no slouch by far and has proven to be a solid performing reliable piece.
Here's another thing now.I'm gonna program the fmu for bow thru design,and use a blow off valve instead of a by pass valve.Which of those 2 would make that easier to do?
Do you mean your gonna program the computer (via: chip or tuner) for Blow thru MAF??Quote:
Originally posted by jaegermeister2k
I'm gonna program the fmu for bow thru design
Just curious as to why you want to do this??
What the hell?FMU?Why did i say that?Doesn't make sense.Anyway.Yeah program the computer.
I wanna do this because of the sound of a blow off valve. :D
I would email Spence@rhodescustomauto.com for a price as well. His service is one million times better then mm's. If they were the last vendor left on the earth, I'd stop racing!! He can give you all the support you need and answer ANY question. He sells both Paxton and Vortech. He is also very competetively priced.
Will do thanks.
I would get with jd's performance for a price.
I've checked thei're prices already.I was wondering though.How come of all the places that sell superchargers not one sells the kenne bell supercharger.I love the idea of instant power.But i can't find it anywhere,except at their website where of course it's expensive.
yo;the tuner kits come less injectors,fuel pump,and reprogramed chip, as for the brackets and hardware it should all be there,as I've done lots of these kits.
Here's the problem i'm having with tuner kits.I heard that you shouldn't run your car without a chip that's programmed for it.So how am i gonna get it programmed without putting the supercharger on first?I already have a diablo chip i could programm.An in tank 255 lph fuel pump should cost me $100 new.And 42# fuel inectors should run me around 300 bucks.But i heard you can run without a chip,i wonder how you do that.
Jaeger, any over the counter chip is going to be a complete POS and waste of money. I did a little test way back when and did some back to back runs under the same conditions with a ADS chip and w/o (I was running non-s/c'd), well low & behold I ran 3 tenths quicker w/o the chip, put the chip back in and walla ran 3 tenths slower.
Your best bet is to tune with a tuner or have a custom burned chip for your car.
Buy the tuner kit, fuel components and get a dyno session or a tuner and it'll run a hell of alot better than it would with any mass produced over the counter chip handling the tune.
yo; send out your diablo chip for reprograming and tell them to cal it for a supercharger application tell them what injector size and mass air unit all the info you give them will help them give the best possible tune ,you should get it on the dyno with the tuners there so it can be foul proof,and no you cannot run the blower without the proper cal as the car will run too rich and foul the plugs.
I was gonna get it dyno tuned of course.I'm just asking.Can they tune my diablo chip that i have right now or do i have to get another one?And how am i gonna get to the dyno session with the supercharger installed?And i can't drive without the chip.
How much do you think that's gonna cost me?Quote:
Originally posted by hotford
yo; send out your diablo chip for reprograming and tell them to cal it for a supercharger application tell them what injector size and mass air unit all the info you give them will help them give the best possible tune ...
no you cannot drive it with bigger injectors without the tune it will run to rich and foul your plugs,and yes you can get the diablo reprogramed.
yes I agree totally with 5150lx as most pepole don't know where to go and mail order chip are BS so try and find a local tuner that can help you out, as for me I use lido at alternative auto in mount clemnis michigan