VR4 Kits

I just purchased a used rear VR4 cover from Craig Conley at Paradise Wheels.
He says he is almost ready to set up the tooling for another run of Kits. He has 6 orders at 600.00 each right now. If you are interested call him at 760-740-0956 or his e-mail is conleyr107@sbcglobal.net

If we show enough interest in them he will get them done for us.

Cliff at Cundn says he is halfway through production of his own kits as well.

I have also located some new old stock impellers and will keep everyone posted. The cover from Craig is Mint also got a shim kit and a VR4 decal too.

All these people have been a pleasure to do business with thanks to all of them A++++.

Is the a whole VR4 kit i have an SN93 now i would like to make it a VR4 he said he didnt have any and would not sell it to me because it isnt a street blower you need to run race gas and it would last on a street car for like 50 miles thats right from his mouth..so im confussed what is this kit contain and can i make it a VR4?

Speedytang on here runs a vr4 on the street and has for many years, ask him about them.

The 600.00 is the rear cover and the impeller to convert a blower, (mine is an SN- 2000)
that puts out maybe 850 CFM and 5 PSI with the HO impeller to a VR4 larger diameter OD
and 16 veins that increase the CFM to 1500 and the Boost to around 15 PSI.

89LX, Todd

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Speedytang on here runs a vr4 on the street and has for many years, ask him about them.

The 600.00 is the rear cover and the impeller to convert a blower, (mine is an SN- 2000)
that puts out maybe 850 CFM and 5 PSI with the HO impeller to a VR4 larger diameter OD
and 16 veins that increase the CFM to 1500 and the Boost to around 15 PSI.

89LX, Todd

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Thanks Todd...I know i spoke to speedystang before i want a VR4 bad...lol...maybe i can find one someday...:)

$600 is not bad, I paid $450 for my last conversion kit 10 years ago from Paxton.

Hey speedy what aftercooler do you run ie which model unit number not the heat exchanger but the aftercooler itself? Do you have a photo of your plumbing. I was trying to go right from the back outlet of the SN-2000/VR4 to the throttlebody directly but can't seem to find one to fit the space because the strut tower is right there. I didn't want to put it up front and then have to plumb it all the way back to the throttle body. I run the BBK-SSI intake. If I use a 180 degree bend out of the charger aiming toward the front
of the car to a 180 in and out aftercooler then to the throttlebody that might work but alot of piping, figured I woulld ask you what you run??

I have never run a aftercooler on a VR4, I use the model of aftercooler that I posted on Turbo cars. I never have seen a gain using a aftercooler or a intercooler that was worth all the piping issues when a water/meth injection unit gives you so much more for a lot less money.

www.solankiperformance.com has a brand new vr-4 for $1900 shipped but here is a email from him. '' I have NEW billet aluminum VR4 impellers, but no scroll covers. The impellers are CNC machined from scratch. Now I have to get some scroll covers made up.

I talked to Paradise Wheels back in November, and at that time he said he had five people waiting for kits. I told him I needed two so back then he should of been up to seven.
And if Solanki still has that VR4 in a couple of months it will find it's way to my house. Then I will just have to figure out how to slow my car down to run 10.0

I have spoken with Craig Conley at Paradise Wheels today 1/28/10 and he
has told me if we had a "total" of 15 people to commit to the VR4 conversions
priced at $600.00 each kit he would produce them. Here is his phone number
to call him at: 1-760-740-0954, his e-mail address is: conleyr@sbcglobal.net

How this all started is I had asked one of the rebuilders if they had any impellers and they told me they had them at 475.00 each and they were supposed to be brand new ones bought from Paradise Wheels (NOS) years ago. I then bought a "Used" cover directly from Craig on 1/11/10 for $150.00 plus a shim kit for $25.00 and a VR4 decal he threw in for free for a total of 190.00 I can show receipt as proof. The cover looks mint for a used part and I'm fussy. It is fully machined to mate up to his original impellers that is why I bought the used cover, it should bolt right up to an original impeller. Well I guess you all know the impeller guy wanted my cover and now he supposedly sold the impeller. I don't know if he really even had them to start with ??
I had contacted Solanki last year he didn't have anymore and told me his casting co in Brazil shut down?? Maybe that is why he doesn't have any covers now??
Anyway if you have any interest in a VR4 kit contact Craig at Paradise and he will hook us up for 600.00 a kit. Why buy another supercharger when you can
upgrade yours to realise it's "Full" potential??
89LX, Todd

Here is the receipt as proof.

The correct e-mail address for Craig Conley at Paradise Wheels is:


conleyr107@sbcglobal.net


Sorry for any confusion!

89LX,
Todd

I am confussed this kit will turn my SN93 into a VR4???...if so what else do i need from Craig to make this work?

Just install the parts and make sure you have a Supercharger cooler.

How does the ordering process work with him. Is craig taking deposits or is everyone paying upfront or is it just peoples names on a list?. I contacted Craig a few times about possibly getting the parts to upgrade to a Vr4 and for whatever reason he kept trying to talk me out of it but I think I am going to change over and just see how I like it, I can always go back if it is as much of a hassle of dealing with the belt slip as he has stated but I have definetly maxed my sn93 and its not making as much as I would like to see this combo make.

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How does the ordering process work with him. Is craig taking deposits or is everyone paying upfront or is it just peoples names on a list?. I contacted Craig a few times about possibly getting the parts to upgrade to a Vr4 and for whatever reason he kept trying to talk me out of it but I think I am going to change over and just see how I like it, I can always go back if it is as much of a hassle of dealing with the belt slip as he has stated but I have definetly maxed my sn93 and its not making as much as I would like to see this combo make.

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Same here i talke to him too and he said i couldnt use the VR4 on the street blah blah blha...i just wanted to get on a list or buy one i'll deal with the hassles myself later i just want more boost...i think the sn93 will give me decent power but i would like to have more on tap when needed...

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Just install the parts and make sure you have a Supercharger cooler.

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So those pasrts he is selling makes it into a vr4? that crank pulley i bought from you would work?,,,aslo what super charger pulley would i need then?

OK i emailed Craig im on the list..!!!!!!

I called him today and put my name on the list as well but we aren't even close. He supposedly has 3 confirmed buyers and won't start production til he has 15. So we need alot more interest.

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I called him today and put my name on the list as well but we aren't even close. He supposedly has 3 confirmed buyers and won't start production til he has 15. So we need alot more interest.

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WOW ok we have to get this going then i want one...well i have the SN93 just i want more boost!!!!! lol :)

He stated to me if he could get 15 people to commit to the kits he would make
up 30 of them. That would make it worth his while to change over his tooling
and he would then have 15 kits on hand for any future inquiries. I think he
would want at least a deposit of some kind to show your commitment to it.
He also told me it is 15,000 to make them so he doesn't want to lay out the
money if there isn't any legitimate interest in the kits, understandibly so.
I just looked at the Novi 2000's and they are 3500.00 for the kit for a 89
mustang and they put out about 10 PSI per the ads on Ebay. I paid Cundn
2109.00 shipped for my kit last June with the HO impeller. I just bought a
used rear VR4 cover from Craig at Paradise because someone in the business
was supposed to have a New Old Stock impeller. It turned out all they wanted
was my used rear cover as I got the run around when I was willing to pay 475.00
for a cast impeller. They supposedly sold 1 of 2 they have and they are trying to
duplicate the one they have left so I can't have it yet???? This is why I'm trying to
get these done. I got a lead on here that there are some billet
impellers for sale without the covers. I called and am on a list to get
one of them as well supposedly for 350.00 we will see if it materializes??
The point of this is that for less money I'll make more boost and have a quiet booster
that can be repaired for a little bit of money.

89 LX,
Todd

The other side of the coin is that any of us that would change over to the VR4 set up could sell any surplus parts either through this site or Ebay etc... and recoupe some of the money back. I have an HO impeller for instance plus the rear cover is worth some thing to someone who needs it.
I just spent 1275.00 this weekend on Aluminum GT-40X-305 heads, Ford Racing 1.6 Roller Rocker Arms, Cobra R Valve covers to clear the tall Rockers, Graphite Ford Head gasket Kit and the seller even through in a water pump gasket set as well all shipped from Canada. I think I did well! I could have just bought another supercharger trading mine up but I like it. Mine is self contained and quiet, my car is a 89 LX all stock looking sleeper with 373's,TKO 500 Tremec 5 speed,BBK-SSI intake and now this stuff too. I have other goodies for a brand new 302 Roller Block on the stand and a new Ford Racing crank as well. I am in the process of picking out Keith Black Forged Pistons and Forged Aluminum H beam Rods as well, so like I said it's not a money issue I just want what I want.

89LX,
Todd

89LX,
Any more news on the VR4 kits from Paradise Wheel? I asked Cundn Racing if they had any kits and this was the response I got,”As of right now no, but soon.” I pressed for more information, but got no response. That was as of 3/2/2010. I hope somebody starts producing the conversion parts again.

That was the last thing I heard from anybody. I just keep getting the run around and it is frustrating for sure. I've tried everywhere but I won't quit till someone makes them for us! Ford is remaking the Boss 302 blocks again perfect for street rods as well as mustangs maybe someone will see the light here!

Todd 89 LX

Anyone "SERIOUSLY" interested in a VR4 impeller Conversion kit for your
Paxton Supercharger please e-mail me so I can keep a list of people interested.
I will post the number on here regularly for everyone to see with your name,
So we can keep track of the number of interested parties so as to keep the BS
to a minimum. Please be willing to give Craig Conley a deposit at Paradise Wheels.
You let me know when you are ready and I will also contact Craig directly and hold
him to it if we get the 15 orders needed to produce 30 kits total.
My direct e-mail is: tfdali@sbcglobal.net please put VR4 Supercharger in the subject
line. You can also send me a message through here if you like either way.

Okay I have ....

ME- 1) Todd Dahlke, 89LX on here, my e-mail: tfdali@sbcglobal.net
My cell number is 860-389-6685 contact me to be added to the list.

2) John McDonnell, Formulalt1 on here

3) Bobby Schlosser, 93stangblk on here


If you want your name on the list contact me via e-mail and notate VR4 in
the subject line as I receive 30 plus e-mails a day. Thanks for your interest!

Todd

2 more names pending: Buck-Strickland and James Pigford, please e-mail me when you have called Craig at Paradise Wheels at 760-740-0954.

Again my e-mail is: tfdali@sbcglobal.net
Please put VR4 Kits in the subject line so I can pick yours out quickly and get back to you,
as I get 30+ e-mails a day.

Thanks for your interest in the VR4 kits,
89LX,Todd

3/24/2010 9:25am; I just got off the phone with Craig at PW. I am on the waiting list. He did not ask for a deposit, but I got the impression once the list is of adequate size he will be calling around for deposits. He seemed very positive about this happening, that’s a good sign.
89LX, I PM’d you too.

Here we Go again for the list of names for the VR4 Kits:

1) Me, Todd Dahlke, 89LX,tfdali@sbcglobal.net, 1 Kit

2) John McDonnell, formulalt1 1 Kit

3) Bobby Schlosser, 93stangblk 1 Kit

4) Doug Acker Jr., dracer1988 2 kits

5) Mike ,Buck-Strickland 1 Kit

I also have James Pigford pending that is 5 names 6 kits plus James when I hear back from him. that will bring the total to 7 kits out of the 15 needed.

We might get some more interest if some of you post about this on the Mustang forums. I'm not a Mustang guy, so I don't no where to go, but it may help the cause. Even those who are not interested in a kit, if you could at least spread the word that would be great.
Thanks

I have Mustang and this is the only site I really visit besides Ebay and actual part venders,Jeg's,Summit,PAW etc.. . I am trying to get onto the Mustang Corral site for that very reason. I have to get a hold of the administrator to see if they will let me post the group buy.

Todd,89LX

Per Craig at PW, "still not enough orders yet." Talked to him 4/13/2010.

If any of you who frequent other sites, especially the Mustang sites could pass the word I would appreciate it.

I spoke with Craig on the phone twice on 4/13/10 as well. I had called him for the specs on a VR4 SN93 I just bought used. His main concern about the kits is he wants people to be aware that these kits require larger intake tubing and larger discharge tubing and quite a bit of tuning/tweeking and or management. You can't just bolt it on! He doesn't want anyone upset or disapointed after purchasing a kit,
so if your okay with all that and know that you have to make certain changes call him.

I bought the VR4 SN93 setup from 1BA67 from here and am VERY,VERY pleased with what I got from him. It is mint inside and all the extras including 10 Rib pulleys, tensioner and a Brand new Belt. Plus all the brackets, bolts a cooler and pump with dipstick setup,braided lines, new Bosch blow off valve, extra shims and bearings all shipped for 1050.00, I couldn't say no!

I also told Craig I was still committed to the VR4 kits and obtaining the 15 names so know that. I started this and won't stop until we get them done. So those of you who are interested e-mail me once you have called Craig at Paradise Wheels at: 760-740-0954 and once again I'll say it, "he is a great guy to deal with". He didn't hesitate to help me out on the phone at all and I called him twice.

89LX, Todd

are you guys all interested in just parts or would a whole Vr4 be useful? I understand the back side of the case is bigger or the front or something- i dont know centrificals, but i've got a Vr4 that needs the ball drive redone.

I dont know how these are supposed to be street driven. My friend bought it directly from Paxton back in the day, and it made it up the street twice before flaking the steel off the ball drives..... and Paxton wouldn't warranty a "race" blower. he does still have the dipstick oil cooler thingy.

so i dont know if i should rebuild it and try to get more than 150 extra ponies out of my 415 inch small block dodge (10.15:1 compression, 292*/ .509" / 108 LSA Purple cam) i know the cam is rowdy for a blower, but would it even see enough boost to get me more than 150 hp?

Is this something i should even be trying, or should i get rid of it--cuz, to be honest, nitrous would be easier for 150-200 hp. Hell, it's damned near impossible to find a 6-71 intake manifold for a small block dodge...

Kaptainriktastik@hotmail.com
-rick

We have another name for the VR4 Kits. Here is the list of names right now.

1) Todd Dahlke,89LX, 1 Kit

2) John McDonnell, formulalt1, 1 Kit

3) Bobby Schlosser, 93stangblk, 1 Kit

4) Mike Scheuer, Buck-Strickland, 1 Kit

5) Doug Acker JR.,dracer1988, 2 Kits

6) Kevin Riles, 1 Kit

total = 7 Kits

We need 8 more to be spoken for, tell your fellow racers and friends the VR4 kits are going to be back in production. The kits are 600.00 each contact Craig Conley at Paradise wheels at: 760-740-0954 and ask to be added to the list of names for the VR4 kits. Contact me at: tfdali@sbcglobal.net e-mail me your contact information.

Thanks for your interest in the VR4 Kits,

Todd,89LX

I contacted PW today to get an update on the VR4 list. Here's what he said.

"Not bad but still need more orders.
Craig Conley"

So, once again pass the word even if you are not interested yourself. If you see a guy at the track with a SN let him know about this list . Or, maybe you need an extra one for the self, back up or spare, investment$$(couldn't be worse than the stock market)? Whatever, lets get another run of these made. $600 upgrade is a lot cheaper than a $2500 new kit.

Thanks

Conversation with Craig from Paradise Wheel 6/23/2010:

Q: Can I get a better price if I buy two kits? On another note, what would a complete VR4 unit go for if you had the parts? I can pass along the word and see if we can drum up some more interest from that angle too.
Craig, “I don't have a firm price yet because I have to make them first. i sold them for 600.00 before and if you buy 2 I will discount the 2nd one for sure.”
Q: Good to know, I may buy two when you make them again just to have a spare. Do you mind if I pass along that you will discount if people buy multiple kits?
Craig,” Sure, But no pricing yet. Could be cheaper when I get to make them in bigger numbers.”
Note this is regarding upgrade kits, not the blower.

What is the list up to? Interested in getting on the list for a VR-4 kit, if it will work in the SN 92 unit. Contact me by pm with more info.

PM sent.

Also, the contact information is above too. I think we are up to 7-8 kits not counting yours. Some may buy extra kits to stash away for latter.

Thanks

Hello 86notch,
I am the guy trying to get these kits made up somehow. If you want to be added to the list of names contact Craig Conley and tell him
you want to be added then e-mail me back that you have done so and I will add you to the list on here. I need your name and contact information so I can contact you when the time comes. Here is Craig Conley's contact info at Paradise wheels 760-740-0956 his e-mail is ConleyR107@sbcglobal.net

My e-mail is tfdali@sbcglobal.net please enter VR4 kit in the subject line as I receive tons of e-mail and I will be able to spot yours quickly.