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    now newbie questions about boost #'s and power...

    hey guys, im new to this forum.. Im considering a novi 1000 for my next mod.. A friend was suppoed to hook me up with an S-trim for dirt cheap but he sold it on me so im looking for an entry level blower thats in my price range..

    So my questions are what is the max boost these things can make? And what mods (pulleys, pipe) does it take to obtain these boost numbers?

    With my current combo in sig, what kinda power would i be looking at with 6-7#'s of boost roughly?

    thanks for the help guys...
    95GT 5 Spd 75k on body, 6k on motor.

    GT40 crate motor...GT40x heads, b cam, 1.72 rockers, Typhoon mani, 24# injectors, shorty headers, 3.90's, Auburn Pro, 31 spline axles, TwEECer and all the bolt ons, Nitto DR's.

    Best ET: 1/8 - 8.122 @ 84.38 1/4 - 12.74 @ 107.09 1.705 60ft Some tuning yet to do

    Best MPH: 1/8 - 8.370 @ 87.34 1/4 - 12.940 @ 109.99 2.023 60ft - Run made with skinnies

    up next: s-trim or turbo

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    A novi 1000 puts out 850 cfm. Check it out on the novi web site. I would guess you would have close to 400hp with what you have.
    I would change your cam out with something a little bigger. Do you have a fuel pump, MSD, and a fuel pressure regulator? What injectors are you running? I dont know what the kit comes with but I would install these things with the blower. Check out the corral I saw a few novi 1000's for sale there.

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    A Novi 1k maxes out at 15 psi. For 15 psi, you'll need an ASP 8" crank pulley. Do a search for it because it has been discussed many many times and Chris (Goliath) wrote a very indepth thread on the installation.
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    Well remember that the old novi 1k is same serpentine drive, new is separate. The article that Chris{goliath} wrote refers to the old style, although you could buy an ASP pulley for the new one, but that article wouldn't be helpful for that. RUN ON SENTENCE.
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    Power Adder: Novi 1K, Anderson PowerPipe, ASP 8 IN Crank. No PS, AC, SMOG.

    HP: 488.3
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    I'm guessing that the revised Novi 1000 would not experience the trouble in regards to waterpump pulley clearance that Goliath went thru with the old style Novi 1000. The Asp pulley upgrade should be pretty simple & straightforward, as easy as swapping the stock pulley for an F-150 unit on the old 1k unit.

    To achieve the 15#'s max boost you will have to upgade fuel pump, injectors.

    To run the stock ~6#'s a bypass valve is an absolute must & is not included with the kit. Driveability w/o the valve is compromised.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kato Engineering
    you just like the metric system because when you talk about your organs length, a three digit number seems to you longer than a one digit number....
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    Used to run 6.90 @ 100.4 mph in the 1/8th

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    Originally posted by lx-convertible
    Well remember that the old novi 1k is same serpentine drive, new is separate. The article that Chris{goliath} wrote refers to the old style, although you could buy an ASP pulley for the new one, but that article wouldn't be helpful for that. RUN ON SENTENCE.
    Damnit! This 'new' Novi is screwing with my head. I keep forgeting about the new style seperate drive. Doh!
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    well i have an adjustable fuel regulator, msd 6al, msd timing control, 24# injectors, 3.55 gears and a 190lph (forgot to put those in sig)...

    I would plan to upgrade my injectors and fuel pump if needed.. Ive heard FMU's suck, so i would most likely plan on ditching it..

    and about the b cam, i would not change it since of all the work involoved.. I like it alot anyways, it makes great midrange-high power...

    what injectors would be ideal for the novi 1k?
    95GT 5 Spd 75k on body, 6k on motor.

    GT40 crate motor...GT40x heads, b cam, 1.72 rockers, Typhoon mani, 24# injectors, shorty headers, 3.90's, Auburn Pro, 31 spline axles, TwEECer and all the bolt ons, Nitto DR's.

    Best ET: 1/8 - 8.122 @ 84.38 1/4 - 12.74 @ 107.09 1.705 60ft Some tuning yet to do

    Best MPH: 1/8 - 8.370 @ 87.34 1/4 - 12.940 @ 109.99 2.023 60ft - Run made with skinnies

    up next: s-trim or turbo

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    I'll be running 42#'s with an 80mm Pro-M personally, I'm shooting for close to 500 RWHP if I can ever get a motor built.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kato Engineering
    you just like the metric system because when you talk about your organs length, a three digit number seems to you longer than a one digit number....
    Dart Block 331 and No Power Adder, currently in pieces...... :weird:

    Used to run 6.90 @ 100.4 mph in the 1/8th

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    I used to have a B-cam and when I put my old blower on that, it sounded unbelievable.
    432 rwhp 404 rwtq.........11.76 @ 120mph on nitto's!!!
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    With 15#s you'd want 42 or 50lbs injectors (I'd go 50lbs.. they'll last longer in theory) depending on the motor you'll be running that on. A 80mm Pro-M would do nicely. Make sure the Pro-M is calibrated for the injector size and for Supercharged applications.

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    i don't agree with the supercharger calibration for the MAF. It usually makes it too rich on top, and tuners end up taking out some of it anyways. I run the 80mm Pro m for NA, and it works fine, believe me...
    Neil
    Engine: DSS Pro Bullet 306, Windsor Jr. heads, E303, 42lb inj., Cobra intake(fully ported lower)65mm TB, 80mm Mass Air, MSD 6BTM, MSD coil

    Power Adder: Novi 1K, Anderson PowerPipe, ASP 8 IN Crank. No PS, AC, SMOG.

    HP: 488.3
    TQ: 461.7 Tuned by FordChip.com

    11.77 @ 119.9
    Best 60ft-1.56
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    Just to add to what Neil indicated on the S/C calibration, I've heard that alot of tuners prefer you use the N/A cal. meters as they have an easier time getting the tune nailed down with them. As my luck would have it, I discovered this after I purchased a Pro-M 80 with the S/C calibration.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kato Engineering
    you just like the metric system because when you talk about your organs length, a three digit number seems to you longer than a one digit number....
    Dart Block 331 and No Power Adder, currently in pieces...... :weird:

    Used to run 6.90 @ 100.4 mph in the 1/8th

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    I used to run a 77mm Pro_M calibrated for 36lbs N/A, and when I went with 42lbs injector, I couldn't even drive the car down the road. So I used my remote optimizer to bring it to 42lbs injectors, but it was still set for N/A. Still stalled out at lights. Sent it to Pro-M and they set it up for S/C. Works great. No problems whatsoever now.

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