i am finishing up on my combo in my signuature?problem.
does anybody think it will hold together?
im afraid i will have to much hp, boost ? can a sportman block hold up to i betting it will make at least 650 hp i am running vortech ys kit pulleys 10 rib.
want to go with cog set up ? any toughts? everthing is all new.
90 linclon mark vii
engine
342, dart block,crower billet crank, olivier rods, je custom pistons 8to1 compression,cometic head gaskets,
heads
AFR 205 heads,60cc,75cc exhaust ports
valve train
crane roller 1.6 roller lifters,manely custom pushrods,
crower tie bar solid lifters
blower
ys trim vortech blower
custom 1/2 "blower bracket,10rib 3.3" blower , 7"crank pulley,
cog drive setup 85 tooth/74 tooth crank, 27/30 thooth blower,
anderson power pipe,vortech mondo blowoff valve, custom blower brace,
exhaust
bassani 1 3/4 shorties, 3"mac pro chamber, 3"pro dumps,
induction
holley system max intake,1"intake spacer, accufab 75 mm t -body,
Engine managment system
fast system bank to bank w/wideband o2,crane ingition hi 6 r box and coil,
msd pro billet distubitor.
cooling system
fulidine radiator,edelbrock water pump,ramchargers dual fan setup,
chassi
custom 6pt roll cage, wild rides battle boxes,mm panhard bar,
sub frame conn., tublar k frame, coil conversion from air ride,
hpm custom control lower arms,adjustable uppers, kyb adjustable
shocks front, bilstines in rear,adj.camber plates,
rear
8.8,welded axels tubes,axels braces,
moser 33"s, strange locker , 3.73 gearset
transmission
lentech strip terminator 3000 stall speed convertor non lockup
fuel system
areomotive fuel system,
custom sumped tank.
Im no motor expert, but thats about 520 to the wheels
(auto 20% loss)... That would be pushing it on the stock block. Isnt the B50 block supposed to be rated 50-100HP stronger then a stock block?
I thought they were safe up to 700FWHP. Ide like to know though, becuase i plan on building a combo similar to yours, and im wondering if i can get away with the Sportsman block safetly.
Vibrant Red 94GT
I would try it. But, I would put a girdle on it, it would help. Hey, I see you are running a Lentech AOD Strip Terminator, do you like it and what upgrades do yours have. I will be ordering one in about two weeks.
393 stroker with YS-trim Vortech :-)
normal valve body on trans low ratio gear set,len is great to deal
with talked to them at mustang shoot out for about 2 hrs.
they know their **** .they build to the specs. of your car .
havent got my car running yet. by may ,i do have dss girdel on it.
90 linclon mark vii
engine
342, dart block,crower billet crank, olivier rods, je custom pistons 8to1 compression,cometic head gaskets,
heads
AFR 205 heads,60cc,75cc exhaust ports
valve train
crane roller 1.6 roller lifters,manely custom pushrods,
crower tie bar solid lifters
blower
ys trim vortech blower
custom 1/2 "blower bracket,10rib 3.3" blower , 7"crank pulley,
cog drive setup 85 tooth/74 tooth crank, 27/30 thooth blower,
anderson power pipe,vortech mondo blowoff valve, custom blower brace,
exhaust
bassani 1 3/4 shorties, 3"mac pro chamber, 3"pro dumps,
induction
holley system max intake,1"intake spacer, accufab 75 mm t -body,
Engine managment system
fast system bank to bank w/wideband o2,crane ingition hi 6 r box and coil,
msd pro billet distubitor.
cooling system
fulidine radiator,edelbrock water pump,ramchargers dual fan setup,
chassi
custom 6pt roll cage, wild rides battle boxes,mm panhard bar,
sub frame conn., tublar k frame, coil conversion from air ride,
hpm custom control lower arms,adjustable uppers, kyb adjustable
shocks front, bilstines in rear,adj.camber plates,
rear
8.8,welded axels tubes,axels braces,
moser 33"s, strange locker , 3.73 gearset
transmission
lentech strip terminator 3000 stall speed convertor non lockup
fuel system
areomotive fuel system,
custom sumped tank.
I talk with Len last Thursday, he suggested The Strip terminator, he is a nice guy to talk to. How much did it cost you, if you do not mind telling me?
393 stroker with YS-trim Vortech :-)
3100.00 shipped
90 linclon mark vii
engine
342, dart block,crower billet crank, olivier rods, je custom pistons 8to1 compression,cometic head gaskets,
heads
AFR 205 heads,60cc,75cc exhaust ports
valve train
crane roller 1.6 roller lifters,manely custom pushrods,
crower tie bar solid lifters
blower
ys trim vortech blower
custom 1/2 "blower bracket,10rib 3.3" blower , 7"crank pulley,
cog drive setup 85 tooth/74 tooth crank, 27/30 thooth blower,
anderson power pipe,vortech mondo blowoff valve, custom blower brace,
exhaust
bassani 1 3/4 shorties, 3"mac pro chamber, 3"pro dumps,
induction
holley system max intake,1"intake spacer, accufab 75 mm t -body,
Engine managment system
fast system bank to bank w/wideband o2,crane ingition hi 6 r box and coil,
msd pro billet distubitor.
cooling system
fulidine radiator,edelbrock water pump,ramchargers dual fan setup,
chassi
custom 6pt roll cage, wild rides battle boxes,mm panhard bar,
sub frame conn., tublar k frame, coil conversion from air ride,
hpm custom control lower arms,adjustable uppers, kyb adjustable
shocks front, bilstines in rear,adj.camber plates,
rear
8.8,welded axels tubes,axels braces,
moser 33"s, strange locker , 3.73 gearset
transmission
lentech strip terminator 3000 stall speed convertor non lockup
fuel system
areomotive fuel system,
custom sumped tank.
Did you get the custom bell housing?
393 stroker with YS-trim Vortech :-)
no just gear set and conveter
90 linclon mark vii
engine
342, dart block,crower billet crank, olivier rods, je custom pistons 8to1 compression,cometic head gaskets,
heads
AFR 205 heads,60cc,75cc exhaust ports
valve train
crane roller 1.6 roller lifters,manely custom pushrods,
crower tie bar solid lifters
blower
ys trim vortech blower
custom 1/2 "blower bracket,10rib 3.3" blower , 7"crank pulley,
cog drive setup 85 tooth/74 tooth crank, 27/30 thooth blower,
anderson power pipe,vortech mondo blowoff valve, custom blower brace,
exhaust
bassani 1 3/4 shorties, 3"mac pro chamber, 3"pro dumps,
induction
holley system max intake,1"intake spacer, accufab 75 mm t -body,
Engine managment system
fast system bank to bank w/wideband o2,crane ingition hi 6 r box and coil,
msd pro billet distubitor.
cooling system
fulidine radiator,edelbrock water pump,ramchargers dual fan setup,
chassi
custom 6pt roll cage, wild rides battle boxes,mm panhard bar,
sub frame conn., tublar k frame, coil conversion from air ride,
hpm custom control lower arms,adjustable uppers, kyb adjustable
shocks front, bilstines in rear,adj.camber plates,
rear
8.8,welded axels tubes,axels braces,
moser 33"s, strange locker , 3.73 gearset
transmission
lentech strip terminator 3000 stall speed convertor non lockup
fuel system
areomotive fuel system,
custom sumped tank.
Thanks for the info.
393 stroker with YS-trim Vortech :-)
no problem
90 linclon mark vii
engine
342, dart block,crower billet crank, olivier rods, je custom pistons 8to1 compression,cometic head gaskets,
heads
AFR 205 heads,60cc,75cc exhaust ports
valve train
crane roller 1.6 roller lifters,manely custom pushrods,
crower tie bar solid lifters
blower
ys trim vortech blower
custom 1/2 "blower bracket,10rib 3.3" blower , 7"crank pulley,
cog drive setup 85 tooth/74 tooth crank, 27/30 thooth blower,
anderson power pipe,vortech mondo blowoff valve, custom blower brace,
exhaust
bassani 1 3/4 shorties, 3"mac pro chamber, 3"pro dumps,
induction
holley system max intake,1"intake spacer, accufab 75 mm t -body,
Engine managment system
fast system bank to bank w/wideband o2,crane ingition hi 6 r box and coil,
msd pro billet distubitor.
cooling system
fulidine radiator,edelbrock water pump,ramchargers dual fan setup,
chassi
custom 6pt roll cage, wild rides battle boxes,mm panhard bar,
sub frame conn., tublar k frame, coil conversion from air ride,
hpm custom control lower arms,adjustable uppers, kyb adjustable
shocks front, bilstines in rear,adj.camber plates,
rear
8.8,welded axels tubes,axels braces,
moser 33"s, strange locker , 3.73 gearset
transmission
lentech strip terminator 3000 stall speed convertor non lockup
fuel system
areomotive fuel system,
custom sumped tank.
Funny. I was just talking about this with 302Man tonight. I really think at 650 HP, (my opinion) you might never break a B50 block. If it was a regular late model, it still may last a long time. There was an article in MMFF magazine where some guy was running 10's in a 3000 lb car and had over 250 passes on a stock late model block. I had a Mexican block that was making 720 RWHP with a Tremec, and it didn't break, but I didn't put a lot of passes on it. I hear the B50 block is even better than the Mexican. I'd say go for it.
A-4, 347 YS-Trim, Cast Iron Street Heats, Power Steering/Windows/Brakes/Door Locks, Steel Hood & Hatch, Stock A-Arms, Stock K-Member, Valid Tag/Insurance, Stock Front/Rear Seats, Factory Carpeting all around. Best ET/MPH 9.11/154.40 (different passes) @ 3405 lbs.
blownmarkvii,
You are running a 10 rib belt. What are your pulley sizes?
393 stroker with YS-trim Vortech :-)
3.33 supercharger 7" crank also 27 cog and 73 crank
90 linclon mark vii
engine
342, dart block,crower billet crank, olivier rods, je custom pistons 8to1 compression,cometic head gaskets,
heads
AFR 205 heads,60cc,75cc exhaust ports
valve train
crane roller 1.6 roller lifters,manely custom pushrods,
crower tie bar solid lifters
blower
ys trim vortech blower
custom 1/2 "blower bracket,10rib 3.3" blower , 7"crank pulley,
cog drive setup 85 tooth/74 tooth crank, 27/30 thooth blower,
anderson power pipe,vortech mondo blowoff valve, custom blower brace,
exhaust
bassani 1 3/4 shorties, 3"mac pro chamber, 3"pro dumps,
induction
holley system max intake,1"intake spacer, accufab 75 mm t -body,
Engine managment system
fast system bank to bank w/wideband o2,crane ingition hi 6 r box and coil,
msd pro billet distubitor.
cooling system
fulidine radiator,edelbrock water pump,ramchargers dual fan setup,
chassi
custom 6pt roll cage, wild rides battle boxes,mm panhard bar,
sub frame conn., tublar k frame, coil conversion from air ride,
hpm custom control lower arms,adjustable uppers, kyb adjustable
shocks front, bilstines in rear,adj.camber plates,
rear
8.8,welded axels tubes,axels braces,
moser 33"s, strange locker , 3.73 gearset
transmission
lentech strip terminator 3000 stall speed convertor non lockup
fuel system
areomotive fuel system,
custom sumped tank.
I can tell you right now from experience that a sportsman block is crap. The difference between that and a Mexican or stock block is marginal. We snapped ours on the first pass. We dyno'd at 604 to the rearwheel and at 6500 rpms. Oh ya it was 0 balanced with a girdle and all very good parts inside, no crap. The stories of people running stock blocks and living are nice but do you really wanna risk everything? Oh and just for the record Randy at PER was able to save everything but the cam and put it into a R302. If your gonna risk it use it a girdle. If we didn't all the main cap pieces would have fell off and destroyed the crank rods etc.Originally posted by Blown347Hatch
Funny. I was just talking about this with 302Man tonight. I really think at 650 HP, (my opinion) you might never break a B50 block. If it was a regular late model, it still may last a long time. There was an article in MMFF magazine where some guy was running 10's in a 3000 lb car and had over 250 passes on a stock late model block. I had a Mexican block that was making 720 RWHP with a Tremec, and it didn't break, but I didn't put a lot of passes on it. I hear the B50 block is even better than the Mexican. I'd say go for it.
Mi-Te Racing Team
1994 SN95 306 YS-trim
NMRA FFW Renegade
I feel your pain Pakman. I don't dispute anything you are saying. I have heard that it can be a hit-or-miss when overpowering a block. I made 720 RWHP on a Mexican Block, and yes, I also had a girdle. I have heard that girdles do little to prevent breakage. I agree, as long as one has the money for an "R" or A4 block, that is the best insurance. In fact, I pulled my Mexican Block out, put the reciprocating assembly in my A4 block, and sold the Mexican Block and girdle because I was afraid I "might" be on borrowed time. But I also believe that it is possible to get away with it ( for a while) if you are not hitting nitrous out of the gate with a dead hook in the 650+ HP zone, or you are not a frequent track car. Anyways, maybe you are proof that the sportsman block may not even be as good as a Mexican block? Interesting comment.
A-4, 347 YS-Trim, Cast Iron Street Heats, Power Steering/Windows/Brakes/Door Locks, Steel Hood & Hatch, Stock A-Arms, Stock K-Member, Valid Tag/Insurance, Stock Front/Rear Seats, Factory Carpeting all around. Best ET/MPH 9.11/154.40 (different passes) @ 3405 lbs.
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks